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GPS driving Autocontrol III Autopilot

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  • #104294 Trash | Reply
    Joachim Gruber

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    Greetings,
    I’m trying to understand the Autocontrol III Autopilot. I know that it’s essentially a repackaged Century II single axis autopilot. Mine came with the optional radiocoupler.
    When I set the radiocoupler to “heading” it follows the heading bug nicely.

    The plane came with a VFR GPS (GNC 250XL). The GPS is connected to an old analog Narco CDI. The GPS also has it’s own CDI on its screen. I’m trying to use the OMNI and NAV functions on the coupler to follow the GPS track (i.e. intercepting a radial), but am not being very successful.

    My question is: Does the GPS unit drive the Autocontrol III directly via the coupler; or does the GPS drive the Narco CDI, and the Narco CDI, in turn, drives the coupler? In other words, is the analog CDI needed or can it be bypassed?

    If a CDI is needed, which CDIs/Glidescopes are compatible with the Autocontrol III? Would a Bendix King KI-206 or KI-208 work?

    Thank you,

    Joachim

  • #104397 Trash | Reply
    William Hughes

    Participant

    Joachim:

    I will attempt to help however I must preface all of these comments by stating that I am not a trained avionics guy. I have just had my face pressed into the glass for a few decades while struggling to figure all of this out…

    A course deviation indicator (generally) accepts a signal from two wires that have a voltage between them that varies between plus 150 mV and -150 mV. If a CDI indicator sees a voltage vary between those limits it will move the indicator appropriately.

    An simple autopilot like the single axis century (or an associated nav coupler) would accept that voltage signal from those two wires and commence a turn, left or right and to greater or lower degrees of bank depending on the strength and polarity of the signal. Some couplers may be more complex and actually track an intercept heading rather than an arbitrary turn from the signal.

    Any device that outputs that signal could be routed into the autopilot and produce the same effect. Almost all analog CDI use that same +- 150 mV DC signal and almost all devices that produce a navigation output can drive an analog CDI that uses that signal. So, in general, you very likely could route your GPS CDI signal directly into the autopilot (or its nav coupler) and it would work.

    The devil is in the details. There are some technical issues that may mean that whatever particular arrangement cannot be certified for IFR, for example. I once successfully routed a digital serial IO signal from a modern hand-held GPS into a +/- 150 mV signal that was then used to drive an old single axis Century II autopilot in a 1970 Cherokee successfully. Completely experimental and utterly not certified for use in an actual airplane – but it did work and so it can be done.

    Now, whether or not that can be done in a practical manner for a reasonable amount of money in a certified IFR aircraft is between yourself and your avionics shop.

    William

     

  • #104419 Trash | Reply
    Joachim Gruber

    Participant

    William,
    Thank you for your explanation. It was very helpful in my understanding of the system.
    Joachim

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  • #104485 Trash | Reply
    John Stark

    Participant

    Hi Joachim,
    Simply put, yes. The nav receiver puts out a left and right signal as described above by William Hughs (good job by the way for a guy that is not in the business!). That signal can go just to a nav indicator (CDI), or an autopilot, or both. They would be wired in parallel if both are connected. Doesn’t matter what model CDI you have.

    Remember with the Century II that in the NAV modes the HDG bug remains alive. The autopilots actions are based 50% on the HDG bug and 50% on the left/right input. This allows you to form a course intercept or crab onto a cross wind.

    John Stark
    N8029P

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