Forum

Notifications
Clear all

This Forum is a place for Piper Comanche pilots to communicate and discuss technical issues

If you join or reset a password, please check your Spam Email box for emails from Admin at ComancheTechTalk.com

Please put your questions on the forum as well so everyone can read and respond. Someone else might be having similar questions.

All questions or topics on the Forums automatically get sent to the Tech team as well.

Altimatic Pilot II

1 Posts
1 Users
0 Reactions
285 Views
 Kate
Admin
Joined: 5 years ago
Posts: 138
Topic starter  

 

  • 106710

    Participant

    I just bought a Twin Comanche with the Altimatic Pilot II in it. I know it is a boat anchor, but thinking at this time if it works I would like to use it and wait until S-Tec/Garmin/Trutrak/Trio come out with an STC to one of their units.

    Is anybody familiar with this unit?
    The first question I have is that the pitch and roll dials on the unit are very stiff! When I turn them it feels like something will break.
    Does anybody know if I can lubricate them or maybe replace them to get them to turn easier?

    Any help and tips on this autopilot is appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Claude

  • William Hughes

    Participant

    Claude:

    Those autopilots need to be coupled to your avionics (specifically attitude indicator and heading indicator) quite closely. If these have been replaced over the years you are likely out of luck. Are they still connected to the attitude indicators?

    Those old autopilots use high frequency resonant tank circuits with capacitors and coils in the instruments in parallel. Variations in the instruments change the value of the capacitance or inductance, this changes the frequency, and the servo is actuated until the feedback capacitor returns the frequency to the center. They are touchy and subject to temperature variation and so forth.

    Those knobs are likely attached to some sort of variable air gap capacitor. You would need to open the case and carefully clean and lubricate the capacitor shaft bearings without leaving any residue behind on anything.

    There are service manuals for those available on line but I am afraid I don’t have any for that model.

    I’ve managed to restore to function an even older “Mitchel Airboy” based Piper Autocontrol II. It wasn’t easy but other than a rebuild of an ancient AN attitude indicator (cost of one AMU) it was relatively inexpensive. Just a lot of careful cleaning and research and helpful guidance for the shop.

    William

     

  •  
    106710

    Participant

    William,
    Thanks for your reply.
    The autopilot in my aircraft is still connected to the gyro and the attitude indicator.
    I did manage to get my hands on the Piper Altimatic Service Manual.
    However, I am having difficulty understanding their diagrams. It looks like there is a mechanical cable link between the panel knobs and the servos!
    I am thinking of lubricating the mechanical linkage cables, hoping this will help make the controls less stiff.
    Do you happen to know a shop that is familiar with these?

    Cheers,
    Claude

  •  

  • William Hughes

    Participant

    Claude:

    There is indeed: a lever that moves the gear motor pinion down into the slip disc arrangement and that also closes a switch that engages the electronics.

    I found a shop in the states that would rebuild the old AN style gyros (direction indicator and artificial horizon): http://www.flyaqi.com/gyro.htm

    They did a very good job on my artificial horizon.

    Good luck!

    William

  •  

  •  
    106710

    Participant

    Thanks William, Appreciated.

    Claude

     
    William Hughes

    Participant

    Claude, you are most welcome. If you are looking for more information on it I have put up quite a bit of information on a similar unit (Autocontrol II) at this link: clrdct.blogspot.com
    William

 


   
Quote
Share: