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Options When Replacing PA24 Rotating Beacon

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Options When Replacing PA24 Rotating Beacon

Postby PhilH » Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:07 pm

I am looking for suggestions on replacing the roof mounted motorized beacon on our PA24-260B. I don't want to make airframe changes but would like to find a low profile electronic beacon.

 

Apparently the only easy fix is the Whelen HRCFA ($350+) but it seems to be taller than the existing motorized unit and might create greater wind resistance.

I looked quickly at specs for the Whelen 70509 which is much less $$ and shorter BUT it is a smaller diameter and I didn't seen adapters for the 3-3/4" rotating beacon application.

Last question - are there esthetic questions about the "look" of the Whelen len when compared to the old rotating beacon? All the Flyer pictures with roof beacons appear to look like the motorized unit.

I would like to order something next week and your experience is appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your help!!

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Postby ics-12766 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:16 pm

By all means, Phil, consider Whelan's LED strobe for the fuselage top. I've seen Kristin's in action on a bright, sunny day. It's impressive!

 

I think we're talking the 70900 series beacons, Kristin can confirm. Chief Aircraft, 2008 catalog lists them for $695 on page 93. Wag Aero lists them for $638.

OTOH, the 70509 will need a 50519 adapter to replace the old rotating beacon.

IMHO, the 70509 flasher probably won't be much better than the old beacon. The HRCFA strobe will be better and the LED unit is best.

YMMV! My opinion only! I've seen or used the LED unit and the SACF and HRCF's. My opinion on the 70509 flasher is JMHO. I've got no experience with it.

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Postby Kristin Winter » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:54 am

I have the LED beacon. It is taller, but narrower than the rotating beacon it replaced. I haven't a clue as to what the net drag gain or loss is. All I know is that it is a better drag to have a mid air collision. That LED beacon is much more visible in the day, than are the strobes.
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Postby Zach Grant L1011jock » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:11 pm

LED, hands down. It is in dirty air on the top of the aft cabin anyway. No real drag increase or decrease, but as Kristin says, its a real drag when you have a nid air, and these things are REALLY bright, and flash at a speed, and remain illuminated for a period of time that the human eye quickly notices and aquires, even on a bright sunny day! How many strobe systems can say that?
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Postby Jay » Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:00 pm

LED. I get comments from line guys like "gee, that's a bright beacon".

 

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Postby markojc » Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:36 pm

Would a Whelen LED unit replace a 1964 PA-30 tail-mounted rotating beacon?
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Postby N3322G » Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:49 pm

Mark,

 

Heads up on your rotating beacon. I don't know what's on a 64, but we just replaced the 1970 Whelen rotating beacon on my PA39 and the Piper housing screw holes align well with the new Whelen 1-0790520-55 red/white LED.

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they made the 'skirt' of the new LED light so short it sits almost a half inch below the existing Piper housing rim. Haven't figured out what to do about this as it just got done last week but will have to do something.

Thought you'd want to know.

Works great and highly visible and that is why I got it - high level of traffic under Class B in DFW area.

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Postby markojc » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:23 pm

This is a stock mechanical rotating beacon that is held in place on the tail by a compression clamp (somewhat like a hose clamp). I want to replace it with LED for visability and because the bulb fails frequesntly. If there is a Whelen LED that will fit, I am looking for the part #. Thanks, Mark
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Postby N3322G » Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:10 pm

Mark, the photo attach function isn't working here so I sent you a PM with three photos and hopefully, that will help.
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Re: Options When Replacing PA24 Rotating Beacon

Postby tomburke1 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:04 am

Globe in Lakeland Florida has a tail mounted beacon and rudder tip for the Comanche as another option.
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Re: Options When Replacing PA24 Rotating Beacon

Postby Jay » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:24 am

Mark:

 

The Whelen LED is an easy replacement for the old rotating beacon. That's what I did, and for the same reasons you site.

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Re: Options When Replacing PA24 Rotating Beacon

Postby Kristin Winter » Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:57 am

Ditto what Jay said. It was a drop in replacement. I have had mine in for about four years. Best money I have spend as you can see that thing better than strobes in the daylight.
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Re: Options When Replacing PA24 Rotating Beacon

Postby Harald Rossol » Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:58 pm

And which Whelen LED part # is it? Our rotating beacon is also u/s. We are unsure which Whelen LED beacon to order for our PA-30B Turbo (1966).

 

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Re: Options When Replacing PA24 Rotating Beacon

Postby 9089P » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:41 pm

Hi

I agree with the Whelen LED recommendation. When I put ours in, I took the rotating beacon part # and went to the Aircraft Spruce online catalogue and ordered the appropriate replacement. I assume yours is on the tail vs the fusilage so it may be a different part #.

Good luck, Don

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Re: Options When Replacing PA24 Rotating Beacon

Postby N3322G » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:55 am

Harald, repeating my post from above. Let me know if you need photos.

Heads up on your rotating beacon. I don't know what's on a 66, but we just replaced the 1970 Whelen rotating beacon on my PA39 and the Piper housing screw holes align well with the new Whelen 1-0790520-55 red/white LED.

BUT
they made the 'skirt' of the new LED light so short it sits almost a half inch below the existing Piper housing rim. Haven't figured out what to do about this as it just got done but will have to do something as this will be a rain catcher.

Thought you'd want to know.

Works great and highly visible and that is why I got it - high level of traffic under Class B in DFW area.

Pat

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Re: Options When Replacing PA24 Rotating Beacon

Postby 9089P » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:44 am

Hi Harald,

You might to talk to Kristin Winter. Her PA30 is a '69 I think and she has the Whelen LED on the tail. She may be able to give you a part number that works out of the box.

Good luck, Don

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