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Fuel somehow siphoning from Tip Tank to Aux Tank in flight?
One niggle that I cannot figure out. I used the tip tanks for approx 5 mins to check their operation in cruise. I used 1usg from the right tip. Some how 6usg were burned from he left tip, but 5usg had siphoned into the left aux tank! So the extra 5usg went from the left tip into the left aux.
Sounds a bit mad but I'm sure mine isn't the first PA30 to demonstrate this problem. Does any one here know why this might have happened?
William
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Re: Fuel somehow siphoning from Tip Tank to Aux Tank in flig
I would bet that the solenoid valve is leaking, allowing the tip tank to flow into the aux as the tip tank is higher than the aux tank. Hopefully the seat of the valve is not corroded and you just need to blow some junk out of it.
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William
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It's like owning a giant rubix cube this comanche business.
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Re: Fuel somehow siphoning from Tip Tank to Aux Tank in flig
I suspect owning any aircraft is like having a giant rubic's cube - all designed to fly ... so far, none that I know of that are designed to be easy to maintain or diagnose problems.
FWIW, my guess would be the selector unless it has been attended to recently. I'll watch the outcome with interest as my twin also has tips.
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Re: Fuel somehow siphoning from Tip Tank to Aux Tank in flig
If the solenoid is deenergized then the tip tank should be isolated completely from the fuel selector. But if the solenoid doesn't close completely then fuel can flow from the tip tank into the aux tank without going to the selector. The only time where you can get fuel leaking between tanks from a bad selector is between the Mains and the Aux and if selected the crossfeed.
You need to drain the aux and tip tanks and disconnect the lines to the solenoid and clean any debris in the solenoid. You can check the operation by blowing into the tip/aux ports and switching the selector from aux to tip. If you can blow air through the selector from the tip side when the switch is to Aux then you need to service the solenoid as it is not closing completely.
Hope this helps,
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Re: Fuel somehow siphoning from Tip Tank to Aux Tank in flig
You've just halved my problem. In the last few weeks I took the solenoids out and free'd them up as they were not used in this airplane in a long time. I got them working, and filled the tip tanks then drained a good bit of fuel through the lines to make sure there was no air in there. Then after I air tested it, I noticed the fuel vanished from the tip and gone to the aux. It must be some dirt I picked up in the system from draining it through so extensively. I'll go again and get the left solenoid out and try get a new O ring in there to see if it helps.
Glad it's not the fuel selectors, that would very $$$ intensive to fix.
Thanks folks
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