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Fuel Odor in Cockpit
I have noticed a very strong fuel odor in the cockpit when the gear is extended in my 1964 250. When the gear is up not too much of a smell. Any thoughts?
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Thanks for sharing the why of the fuel vapors increase - hadn't put that and the bladders together. Its a nice early predictor vs the normal, see blue fuel stain and then take action.
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If your fuel bladders are old then Zach is most likely correct. To check get under the wings and check for blue stains/goo at the wing roots. If you bladders are new, or relatively so, you can get the smell if you have a leak at the fuel tank selector valve. I know this as I still had the fuel smell after replacing all 4 bladders a few years back. You can get a rebuild kit from webco for the valve.
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Good luck, Don
PS Do not fall for the false economy of repairing the old bladders. The cost here will be the labor, buy new bladders.
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If you don't mind how much did the tanks cost with the discount?
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Since I had other work done at the same time, I don't recall the individual cost.
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To trouble shoot, look at the trail of stains and see if they connect to the mains, and then look for stains outboard of your mains for aux tank leakage. There is a small inspection plate where the tank nipple connects to the fuel line. If there are blue stains there you will need aux's as well. In the fuel injected Comanches, another thing to check is the aux fuel pump. If it is leaking you get the same smell.
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It would also be worth checking your fuel sender on top of the wing. I had one of these leaking that caused the odor in the cockpit and the stains on the wing root. It will be easy to tell if one is leaking there will be fuel standing in the depression it sits in. All it took to fix mine was to torque it down as it was loose. Also I have had the nipple leak behind the fairing in the wing root. Again the hose clamp just needed to be tightened. Also a bad gasket around the big oval opening around your filler port can cause this. I will say I noticed more just blue fuel stain rather than goo. Hope you can get it fixed quickly!
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I had the same problem with the fuel sender. But there is also a flexible tube in the fuel vent line Part No. 82371-47. When this tube is bad, fuel will run through the wing, when the fuel cell is full to the top. The fuel vent line will then not vent to the bottom of the wing, it ends inside th wing.
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