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Hot Temps on 1969 Twinkie (non turbo)
If I am missing something here, please let me know. I appreciate any of your thoughs. BTW - my mechanic said baffles were fine, and the prop gov, which recently was rebuilt, was also fine.
Scott
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LoPresti inlets are round.
What was showing hot - oil temp?, CHT? All?
Did giving it more gas help?
You might consider checking injectors for blockage.
Depending upon your probes - it may be that one cylinder was hot.
Any other symptoms? Airspeed same as previous trips? Any yaw?
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Hot Temps on 1969 Twinkie (non turbo)
No yaw, no difference in speed. I will mention injectors to my mechanic.
Thanks Pat.
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Keep us all posted.
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I am keeping my fingers crossed.
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Still keep us posted, will you?
Friends who have the Knots2U love them. I have about all their other mods but my original cowlings are in very good shape. I do love the Arapahoe windshield.
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Checked mag timing and both mags were spot on. Fuel flow on the ships guage seems slightly lower on the right than left but only by .5 GPH or so. the problem is most noticeable during climb. I'm suspecting a combination of insufficient fuel flow at WOT and poor baffling. The baffling definately needs some work, but that wouldn't seem to be the cause of high EGT's at take off.
Ideas?
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Fuel flow- the only way to get the fuel flows exactly matched is to send both servos out and have them bench flow checked and matched. Otherwise you are limited to adjusting the idle mixture for below 1100 rpm fuel flows, but that will have some effect on the higher end, but not much. Specs for the IO-320 engine are takeoff FF of 13.6-16.8 GPH at full power, sea level, std day according to Lyc. That is the spec, you can choose to have the engine set up anywhere in the spec.
CHT- BAFFLES, BAFFLES, BAFFLES!!!!!!! Ok, lets start with the flexible baffle on the nose bowl, that should be visible in the inlet. It should run from under the lip of the nose bowl, and should be OVER the top of the front cyl baffle. If it is under the lip, all the high pressure air is going to the lower deck, and decreasing cooling efficiency significantly. Next, look at the baffle material along the cyl. It should be on the pressure side (inside) of the hard baffle if it is attached by rivits. If it is on the outside, and in good shape, use copious amounts of RTV on the inside where the soft baffle meets the hard baffle, so no air escapes through the gaps. Next, look at the soft baffle on the rear baffle. It should be compressed and pointed forward so the pressure makes the seal tighter, not allowing air to shelf over the baffle. Fill any holes, and all areas between the baffle and the case with RTV to maximise the efficiency. Think like the air coming in the front. Try to maximise the pressure on top of the engine (uper deck) and minimise the pressure below the engine (lower deck) and the greater the delta P, the more efficient the cooling will be.
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The Twinkie has (still today) one of the best cooling nacelles ever put on an airplane IF the baffles are maintained to a high standard. The airflow design is very low-drag and very efficient but only if the baffles are "air tight".
I have seen folks get rid of high temps and gain TAS increases of 3-5mpn just by repairing engine baffles and RTVing leaks.
To say the Twinkie is a critical airplane is perhaps an overstatement but it sure gets a lot out of very little horsepower (fuel flow) only if engine baffling and airframe rigging are correct. A slight slip from optimal in either causes a noticable effect on performance.
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Thanks for everyone's input and assistance.
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