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B and C Model PA30
- Billy Matthews
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Re: B and C Model PA30
I limited my search to the C's and the PA-39's while favoring the C. I wanted upgraded panel as I thought, and still think, that they look a bit more modern which might help on resale, and I like it better. I preferred the non-CR as they perform slight better and some of the CR components are a bit rarer and sometimes pricier.
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Re: B and C Model PA30
how do i know?
I think the B does not have direct access, and their baggage door is on the right side, the C is on the left.
steve
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Re: B and C Model PA30
Realy, in todays market, there is not much difference between a B and a C if the B has been converted to Alternators and has an upgraded panel with a std T layout. Yes the C has the thicker stab, but I haven't noticed any difference in flight between the two, except possibly a few knots in speed, but that is hard to track as there are so many airframe variables. The only thing I did notice is that ice doesn't build as fast on the larger radius tail feathers, but I never had controllability issues with the thin tail in ice either, even though it looked ugly!
-Zach
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Re: B and C Model PA30
Some might argue that you would be better off buying a "B" even if it had generators as then you could convert to Plane Power alternators rather than have the Piper system that was put in the "C".
Don
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Re: B and C Model PA30
Even if you get a C, that option is still available. Kristin Winter just converted her C to the Plane Power system. Also, the InterAv system is also a very good option for the "A"s and "B"s, and should not be over looked when making the conversion decision.
Zach
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Re: B and C Model PA30
Is the Interav system paralleling system or does it use the main/aux voltage regulation system that Piper was using in the late 60's and early 70's.
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Re: B and C Model PA30
It is a paralleling system. Two separate voltage regs with automatic switching and sharing.
Zach
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Re: B and C Model PA30
- Billy Matthews
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Re: B and C Model PA30
I like the right side location of the baggage door on the earlly models as it's easy to load and unload items without walking around the airplane. This ease also encourages loading in the back where the aft weight helps move the cg to a more efficient position.
I also like the enclosed baggage compartment that allows storage of items in the airplane where they cannot be seen and tempt a thief when the airplane is tied down overnight.
I have not flown a B or C model, but when I sit in one I sense the added height of the instrument panel somewhat limits the forward visibility.
Al Powers ICS 2978
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Re: B and C Model PA30
Some excellent comments on the baggage compartment door being on the right side, I never thought of it.
I still like having access to the back in flight, and an easy emerg. exit.
As far as seeing over the panel, in climbout, i fly faster, less pitch, so vis has never been a problem and i'm 5'9
and in cruise, the plane gets on step, and has a small angle of attack, so i see rather well, much better than in a mooney, cessna....
steve
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Re: B and C Model PA30
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Re: B and C Model PA30
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Re: B and C Model PA30
Zach
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Re: B and C Model PA30
it might look longer because of the additional window
Patricia Jayne (Pat) Keefer ICS 08899
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Re: B and C Model PA30
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Re: B and C Model PA30
It is so much fun to chat with other pilots on the Twin Comanche - back in 2008 I was going to my 30th high school reunion and wondered if husband would enjoy it at all - I asked one of my friends if she was bringing her husband and she said yes - he had planned his flight schedule around it - then I knew husband would have someone to talk with ... yes, he got his multi in a twin Comanche - so you know both guys were happy the entire evening.
Frequently it is the smallest plane on the ramp but it still looks fabulous - like the sport cars parked behind the 'lumbering' SUVs.
Patricia Jayne (Pat) Keefer ICS 08899
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Re: B and C Model PA30
What I mean by Gear Gap is how much of the Crome Cylinder is Shown:
- Billy Matthews
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Re: B and C Model PA30
Zach
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Re: B and C Model PA30
Thanks
Billy
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Re: B and C Model PA30
Jim
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Re: B and C Model PA30
We have an adjustable seat for PIC that is an original install. It helps.
Patricia Jayne (Pat) Keefer ICS 08899
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Re: B and C Model PA30
- tomburke1
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Re: B and C Model PA30
From the firewall to the tail I believe all singles are the same length. The C model single does have a prop extension and consequently a longer cowl which is primarily in the shark nose. So it is longer but only from the firewall forward.
Good luck, Don
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Re: B and C Model PA30
Don
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Re: B and C Model PA30
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