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Aussie Horn

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Topic starter 10/04/2020 1:39 pm

January 10, 2019 at 05:49 #105281 Trash | Reply

106435

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I’m in the middle of my annual and the stab.horn is due. I have also just finished Bill Creech’s book.
So I’m confused about if putting in the Aussie horn eliminates the horn AD (actually changes it to a lesser/easier inspection every 100hrs, according to Bill Creech), or are you still stuck with the 10yr then 5yr requirements.
In reading the full AD with all comments I was left with the conclusion that the FAA was not really sold on the Aussie horn as it only addresses one small part of their concerns. And that even if you installed it, you still only got 10yrs.
I’m new to the group so sorry if this has already been beaten to death, but I could not find much about it in the archive forums.
So my question really is for anyone who has installed the Aussie horn, was it worth it? Also is there a big delay in getting one and the special tools required to install it, that Bill Creech speaks of.
If it turns it into a 100hrs easy inspection, I would do it. If it only buys 10yrs instead of 5yrs (same as installing a new one ) I would pass.
January 10, 2019 at 22:02 #105284 Trash | Reply

Ed Asmus

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I’m sure you will get some feedback on this but I would call Cliff Wilewski at Heritage Aero, now in Freeport, IL (just moved out of Rockford, IL). He installed the Aussie horn in my Comanche 4 years ago now. I have since sold the airplane but you will get completely accurate info from Heritage on anything Comanche!

Good Luck,

Ed
- January 11, 2019 at 21:01 #105355 Trash | Reply
  
  106435
  
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  perfect, I will do that now. Thanks so much.
- January 11, 2019 at 21:41 #105356 Trash | Reply
  
  106435
  
  Participant
  
  Thanks so much, this is what they sent me. The columns don’t line up and paste so well, but you can kind of figure it out. You can just send in your old parts and they will install a new horn and return it. Best case is $1795, worst is $3974 if you need a new tube ($1709) or new bearings ($470), plus shipping. They can turn it in about a week or less. If you fly in they can do it all for another $1000 labor. Extremely nice people to talk to on the phone. Hope this helps others.
  Piper Comanche Tail Horn AD2012-17-06 HERITAGE AERO, INC.
  Revised March 2018 815-395-0500 http://www.heritageaero.com
  
  Cost/Option Do Nothing Only Inspect Current Horn New Piper Horn Assembly New Australian Horn Install Horn on Tube Only
  12 Hrs. 12 Hrs. 18 Hrs. 8 Hrs.
  Labor $1,200 $1,200 $1,800 $800
  
  Parts
  Horn 575 945 945
  Tube 1,709 1,709 1,709 1,709
  Bearings 470 470 470 470
  Supplies 25 25 50 50
  
  Totals
  Best Case $1,225 $1,800 $2,795 $1,795
  Worst Case $3,404 $3,979 $4,974 $3,974
  Recurring Requried 100 hours after Oct 2012 5 years or 500 hours 10 years or 1000 hours Terminating Action no further work required Terminating Action no further work required
  
  Estimates … Best case reflects utilizing existing tube and bearings
  Worst case reflects new tube and bearings
  Other work may be discovered and determined to be necessary but will be estimated separately and authorized by owner prior to being performed
  
  * The costs above do not include shipping charges.
  *Payment by check is preferred. A 4% convenience fee is added for credit card sales.
  - This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by 106435.
- February 28, 2019 at 20:56 #105652 Trash | Reply
  
  William Hughes
  
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  The horn is an alternative means of compliance for the AD. It essentially replaces the part the AD applies to with another part and thus the AD no longer applies. However, the horn has its own set of continuing airworthiness requirements. These consist of a visual inspection every 100 hours. This visual inspection does not require removal of anything from the aircraft.

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